1. WebMiami Sports. He doesnt seem to have any issues with the request so Im not sure its even a problem. There are enough teams that dont care about tattoos and piercings that I dont think that will be Newtons issue, assuming he has the make-up to live up to his athletic talent. Any job like that is going to have image standards and moral terpitude clauses. ahI remember when America used to be alot more about personal freedom (about 10-12 years ago) and less about conforming to the new corporate america that is now in control. Tattoosshmeh not so much. end of story. Otherwise I have no issues with tattoos and piercings on players. In the wake of the Aaron Hernandez arrest, some eyebrows were raised at the news that authorities were scanning his vast array of tattoos for evidence of gang connections. You think you can go into a big firm and score a high paying job while sporting tatoos and peircings? As long as there continue to be other players on his team with tats or piercings, Newton can make a clear-cut case for discrimination if he is disciplined for getting either himself. Jerry is old school Plain and simple. If he doesnt have any at this age he probably doesnt want them, but its the principle. Claiming that our jobs mean nothing & that monkeys could do it. You know NOTHING about any of us.some are firefighters who run into a burning building to save lives & property. Grant Hill 5. Take Donald Driver for examplehe wears two big earrings and it looks like (from a quick google image search) he has some tattoos on his arms. People forget that these guys work FOR the owners just like you work FOR your boss. But Richardson isnt Newtons father. As usual the folks here are writing an article about nothing to create page hits and controversy. Sure, they are drafted by a team and therefore obligated to play for them or else harm their chances of playing anywhere at all, but they are not shackled to the deck and forced to scrub the floors. It may not be your choice, and it may not be the most courageous choice, but its a legitimate choice. Just ask your grandparents. 1 draft pick, Jerry Richardson to Cam Newton: No tattoos, no piercings, Report: Derek Carr wants $35 million per year, The Raiders are the betting favorites to land Aaron Rodgers, Mike McCarthy: Kellen Moore wants to light the scoreboard up, I want to run the damn ball, ESPN reiterates report that Lamar Jackson wants a fully-guaranteed deal, Arrest warrant issued for Jalen Carter for reckless driving, racing, Aaron Rodgers says hell make a decision soon enough, Competition Committee begins to explore the quarterback push play, Players say Chiefs discourage them from reporting injuries, have NFLs worst training staff, Bryce Young is just over 5-10 and 204 pounds. But I cant have BOTH at this stage in my career. This is a discussion on CujoMatty Madden 20 Generic Tattoo Project within the Madden NFL Football PC forums. I didnt know Jerry Richardson was a Michelle Bachmann backer. I normally dont get into issues like this and have no hint of racist blood in my body (heck, my wife is white lol).The problem I have with this article is that I am sure the same questions werent asked about Gabbert by Richardson. Regardless of the motivation, theres something troubling about Richardsons position. It is up to them, however, I have higher opinions of players who choose not to get tattoos or piercings. People somehow think it is their constitutional right to take a job somewhere and look and do whatever they want because of freewill.incorrect. Jerry owns the team and can ask his player (s) to have no tattoos. ************************************************** He is one of the few footballers without tattoos as it prohibited in his religion Islam. Im a banker. There are laws against being singled out like that. Ike Diogu 7. Never bothered him about Steve Smiths tats. Such is life. July 31, 2013. Sounds like a real bigot. If the owners made rules about when the players where allowed to go number 2 you would probably approve. And I it was a strong request, not a demand. He is just one of many muslim footballers without tattoos. Translation: Dont want to scare white people. Ill be posting some of the most interesting aspects of their discussion right here. I have also placed him on the mythical collegiate, Mt. Lionel Messi or Kylian Mbappe? Umm I think hes paid to play be the face of the franchise and be a mentor to people..with that being said u can have tattoos and still be that..tattoos dont determine the kind of person you arelet JR frown about it I bet if he does get them and have good yrs doing his rookie contract he will get an new contract regardless..sometimes employees dont see eye to eye with there bosses anyway. Everybody has made good points in this discussion. Hes difficult, and in all liklihood the reason he doesnt want newton to have tattoos is because of a misconcdption about whether Newton can be successfully marketed while simultaneously being tatted and black. Thigh Football Tattoos 11. Instead they are becoming more involved in the Global Business that their team is and investing their personal time into the players, employees, and teams. I bet 90% of people work somewhere that has some type of dress code, either cover tatoos, keep your hair neat. Ex Barcelona Pep Guardiola boss reflected on why Andreas Iniesta does not wear any tattoo, Iniesta doesnt die his hair, he does not wear earrings and he hasnt got any tattoos. I have no opinion about whether players should have tattoos or not. Its America and both can do what they want in this country. When big money starts changing hands, companies are more likely to support teams and athletes that represent the type of image the company wishes to present for itself. It also seems to say more than we own your services and borders on we own you. ' Richardson told Rose. Of course, if Richardson keeps writing checks like he has these past few months, Im sure those offended players could get over it. If you explain the business reasons , most would go along. And uh, I am a Raider fan. Also, I doubt paying customers will care about any of that assuming TDs are being put on the board. Not a big deal though, most employers want employees to look professional. . Got it. I actually dont mind this and agree with the sentiment. The kids might like it but adults ie people with money were turned off. I disagree with the assertion. This interview took place BEFORE the draft. Not everyone who has tattoos is a gang-banger or crimminal. (and by the way richardson is right, a mother or father will have a lot tougher time convincing their kids to NOT get tattoos if the local sports hero is covered in them. This is kin to Cowherd making his point that Romo needs to take that damn backwards baseball cap off.. Jerry Richardson is becoming the East Coast Al Davis. Most other teams expect to win. But Earrings denote immaturity. A sign of maturity would be to not get the tats to appease the owner and not really give a crap about it either. These players represent their respective teams. WebHe was charged with RESISTING AN OFFICER WITHOUT VIOLENCE. that some of you morons mentioned. There are 31 other that might want to employ me, so its your choice sir! I know there are those who will argue the New York Yankees no facial hair rules if one wants to play for the organization. Those who choose not to abide by the new regulations will be subject to fines and other disciplinary action including the possibility of suspension. The difference is you can also go to another restaurant that allows tats and piercings. At least hopefully Cam will show better judgement than Pryor and avoid getting any tattoos on his throwing arm in the 24 hours leading up to a game, that habit really hurt Pryors consistency. Newton is a grown man, and he can do whatever he wants by way of decorating his body with ink or ice, or by growing his hair as long as he pleases. Well give you the last word on this one. I liked it better when players took steroids bigger,stronger,faster whats wasnt to like ? Im perfectly OK with JR telling him how he should represent JRs franchise. This is absurd! Name one great leader to have earrings or other visible piercings. Side Football Tattoos 8. if the owner is paying the face of a franchise millions and he does not want his franchise player haveing tatoos or pierceing that is cool to me.i worked as a waiter and i had to take my pierceings out and cover my tatoos when i was at work,because i was a represenitive of the restarunt.so if the owner of a million dollar company does not want you to have tats or pierceing than you should not have them. I hate tattos, that being said, if I were Cams friend, I would be advising him to go out and get some ink, ASAP. They dont have to work at the establishment. and not that cool old school. Well, the guy got ticked off and blew the interview. Probably because the Polish striker refuses to show off fancy stuff and refuses to compromise his body. I can name SEVERAL black players in the league without tatoos and piercings. Yeah, I think owners have every right to decide whats important to them in building their brand, including whether their most marketable player has tattoos. He is the best deep threat in NFL and has been waiting to be paid accordingly. NFL players can have as many tattoos as they want, and they do not have to cover them under any rules. Maybe that makes him unattractive to media but he is the best!. If Cam is a decent guy who wants to be a franchise QB hed probably just not get tatoos and piercings anyways. This is so ridiculous. updated March 23, 2022, 7:35 am Next in the list is the Egyptian King known as Mo Salah. Im sure a bunch of guys of similar appearance felt it they just sounded reasonable when they fought to maintain slavery and to prevent womens basic rights (like owning property or voting) as well. Okay so I agree with the whole no visible tattoos in the normal workplace but the NFL is a lot different you dont apply for a team like you do in a normal job youre DRAFTED so I think the players can look however they want to and not have to pay the price because they got selected to a team with a strict coach. Its sad that so many companies feel the need to suppress individualism all in the name of capitalism. This is going to sound stereotypical but I would expect to see the tattoos in the auto repair shop, county fair, machine shop, steel mill while not seeing them in the operating room, court room, bank, schools and restaurants. If your company says no tattos or No piercing it is a written policy. Best comment of the day. These JR backers are really excited about being model employees and doing what your boss says. I said, Do you have any tattoos? The Senegalese star devoted himself completely to football and does not care about fancy stuff. But for every Mike Vick their are even more JaMarcus Russells, Vince Youngs, and Terrelle Pryors. WebSome famous people who have a tattoo include Michael Jordan, Paul Stanley (of WWE fame), Sylvester Stallone, and Marilyn Monroe. Not a member? While my personal preference is in alignment with Richardson, I am not ok with the implication that it is a requirement. Not to be superstitious but a tattoo would definitely mess up the team mojo if he got one now, right? Where is Allen Iverson when you need him? Speaking to an interview he explained: I dont have tattoos because I donate blood very often. Who Will Win The Premier League Golden Boot For The 2021/22 Season? Once Mike learned that he needed to put in the extra time he became a much more successful pro QB and not just a freakish hybrid RB. brientomas says: Aug 24, 2011 5:09 AM Wrong. As a citizen in the corporate world, if I wear tattoos, I can rest assured there are jobs I will never be allowed to fill especially if I face the public in any capacity. That may hold true for fans. lets review the poll question: Should teams be able to tell players not to get tattoos or piercings? The main reason Ronaldo does not have tattoos is that he donates blood regularly. So without further ado, its time to introduce the could-have-been-good, the bad and the ugly tattoos across the NFL. Sounds negotiable to me. I just want to play football.. No wonder the panthers blow. Are you guys Fn kidding me? Boy, a lot of people who werent there know for sure what was said and to whom it was said. chrisbntx says: freedomispopular says: So save all the rediculous comments about athletes being slaves. You are the biggest herd of sheep I have ever seen. tats are so common if he held the rest of the team to that rule he would have a lot of roster spots to fill . Its the same deal here. And the unfortunate truth is, in big business, image is EVERYTHING. Cam Newton Just Checked his map and realized hes in that country called AMERICA. cam wont get to draw that line. He makes the tattooed team for his inked forearms. Richardson is just helping Cam be an entertainer and an icon.. to middle aged white people, just like himself. Its a legitimate choice. At 18-9, the 76ers lead the Eastern Conference. Shin Football Tattoos 13. Its like any other job. When bosses complain about tattoos and such it is because they feel the tattoos are embarassing and they dont want to lose business. How about this.let Cam get the tattoo then rescind his contract and let him sign somewhere else where there is actual talent around him. There is a difference between this is our policy and, do you have any tattos? Do NFL players have to cover their tattoos? There just arent that many supremely gifted athletes like Vick out there that can spend virtually no extra time on being a great QB. Bottom line is its up to the owner to decide how the team is presented to the fans. Hes going to represent a whole franchise. I have tats all overhowever, I now work in a field that requires I cover them when there. my 80+ yr old great uncle has a tat that says mom on his arm, does that make him a bad person? Hes an extremely handsome man, and with a little success on the field, can parlay that into a lucrative marketing deal. What makes you part of the team is not the draft but the contract that is signed, which most NFL contract do have a morality/ dress code clause look at Plexico Buress and others who violate their teams contracts by doing stupid things. Cam didnt have to sign the contract, and Richardson can run his own business. There are very few that can pull off reasonable tattoos, and none that can pull off piercings. However you cant tackle by the shoulder pads and sometimes players get flagged because when they have the hair it LOOKS like the pads. if you read the question as stated, then the CLEAR answer should be NO. I think the owner has the right but I dont see how it helps your team win games. drmonkeyarmy says: Thankfully, the tattoos didn't stop 25-year-old Kaepernick from getting an NFL job. Keyonta Muhammad Ansari, 7-May, /post/keyonta-muhammad-ansari/, -118. Im not arguing the merit of the request with this post, but I do think youre off base if youre throwing out the companies have policies line here. employees do have rights. Business owners (and the NFL is a business) have a right to do so. I said, Do you have any tattoos? Richardson told Rose. ************************************************** Fines? owner doesnt equal king of the world. -. If he doesnt have any at this age he probably doesnt want them, but its the principle. Its a business and some of those things do alienate fans which is alienating customers. Thats just fact. Better keep him away from LameBron James then. 1 location for custom sneakers in Europe. It is really a little on the stupid side. WebFrom a big, beefy offensive lineman having Mamas Boy tatted on his massive biceps to Jeremy Shockeys nod to the great American bald eagle, the league is littered with tattoos that are questionable at best. Teams should let players know what they expect form their players, and if the players get tatoos then they should know that their owner frowns on it. New York Yankees veteran left-handed reliever Aroldis Chapman was placed on the 15-day injured list Saturday because of an infected wound he got from a recent tattoo procedure, the club announced. In many cases, people use tattoos/piercings as a form of self-expression. Many business have dress codes and personal conduct codes. First I think we need to remember that the NFL is a JOB! if he doesnt want him to have tqtoos or piercings, he has every right to request that. The candidate and employer were on the same page. I dont see what the big deal is. The NFL has always been known as a league where players can display their personalities in a number of different ways. How many would just harbor a disdain and not address it? As much as I DESPISE players using the slave term. Sounds like a real bigot. They trade 90% of their drafted prospects anyway, but the guys they do bring up go along because that is the standard in the locker room amongst the veterans. Athletes are NOT slaves, as much as some like to say. The employer has a right to spend their money on a person who looks presentable. I dont see what the big deal is. While Im sure Richardson is an old-school guy who has low regard for any manner of body ornamentation, this isnt so much about Jerry imposing his own personal values on a player; its a matter of maintaining and maximizing Cams image and marketability, particularly as it relates to the corporate sector. I want the best image I can get for my product and that means different things for different places. People are giving examples of how things are in the workplace for non-professional athletesbecause (some of) these athletes are often out of touch with the reality of their fans lives. I dont. No one can reasonably claim that a tattoo on a players butt affects his appearance. Richardson is an idiot. and no rap music. I have a problem with the fact that this was even a part of his thought process. I dont have any. I said, Do you have any piercings? He said, No, sir. he should be allowed to get a BUST tattoo on his forehead. The thing is, as the article mentions, it has to be consistant with the business or in this case the franchise. If Cam doesnt like it he can work somewhere else, right? He didnt draft the guy and then say theses things. No offense, but my workplace has a dress code that states no visible tattoos and no piercings on men. Sleeve Football Tattoos 5. LaMarcus Aldridge has more than one tattoo 1. Every person (not just NFL player) should have the right to look, speak, and portray themselve the way they feel comfortable. Artwork on his neck, arms and any area that is exposed outside of normal clothing and the uniform should be cool. I dont agree with facial and neck tattoos, and primarily an ear piercing really is not that big of a deal. Seriously? How many bankers have you come across with facial tattoos and lip rings? The BOSS had certain standards for the Yankees when it came to facial hair. 5. He should just say no thanks, go get a couple of tats and sign with the Colts for less money and he can sit behind Manning. The standards are not the same for everybody/everywhere. In my opinion, in most cases, tattoos and piercings just make players look immature and unprofessional. Cam can choose to bag groceries instead of get paid 30 mil to play a game. There are a number of portraits including of inspirational political figures Barack Obama, Martin Luther King Jr and Malcolm X. The 6-foot-5, 230-pound Johnson was the preseason SEC player of the year in. And the 29-year-old has an equally impressive tattoo collection to match his amazing hands and electric speed. If my memory serves me correctly Jerry was a big supporter of the rooney rule. Some employers even take it a step furtherMy partner is a firefighter, and she had to sign a morals clause as part of her employment contract with the city. Does anyone actually think if Newton actually got a tattoo(s) or piercing(s), Richardson would actually fire or discipline Newton? I dont think so. Why does a Man feel the need to wear an earring anyway?? Though, he usually likes to show off his collection of cars that he has deserved. This is funny. ive had many coworkers that have to rock the long sleeves at work to cover up the tats, and theyre cool with that. Super Bowl bound Beckham is said to have as many as 86 pieces of art on his body with all different meanings. should rememberand how could they forgetthat Newton, as a union member, is covered by a collective bargaining agreement that sets out the conditions of his employment. Pittsburgh, New England and New York are thought to have the best onwership and those rules dont exist. It is an employee relationship he seeks to re-establish, and the employees should look presentable to the public. Besides, every other corporation has a dress code of some kind, it isnt like he would not have faced this perhaps in the work place elsewhere. Please explain to me why it would be so crazy for ownership to enforce something like this. Also look to the military, sure soldiers, sailors, and airmen get tats, but if they are visible like on the face or hands they are subject to article 15 under the USMJ destruction or harm to Government Property like the individual who could be reduced in rank and subject to discharge. Call it what you want. my issue is this: sure companies can dictate how you show up and act at work, i get that. Its not like this is new. Typically, when people like this state they that they think they are being reasonable, they are just demonstrating their desire for everyone to look and act the same way they do. With regards to the NFL, people would watch it still if the players wore snuggies instead of uniforms. and second, since when did just having a tat make you immoral for some reason? Tattoos have received a negative connotation in recent years, going as far as the NFL might hire police experts to study players tattoos, according to an article published by CBS . Cmon Cam show a pair! BUT I think im reading into Richardsons intentions the face of the franchise will make both of them money if he is clean of those markings. I wondered how I would have felt if one of my back surgeons showed up in his scrubs with arms full of tattoos and lips, nose, cheeks and ears pierced. But I bet its not always the case with sponsors and advertisers and the business that pay to be affiliated with the team. Its a simple process and then you feel happy because you know you are helping another person. Jerry owns the team and can ask his player(s) to have no tattoos. All you widget business owners out there can dictate how your employees dress. I have never worked for a company, as an adult, that did not have a visible tattoo policy. If it does become an issue he can always request a trade to the Raiders or Bengals. Hand Football Tattoos And for that I applaud him. Richardson, who said that Newton was dressed perfectly for their meeting, was blunt. Lavezzi, as well as being one of the strongest Argentine strikers, is one of the most tattooed football players in the world. Everybody has made good points in this discussion. There is a difference in telling players and asking players. Im not saying its right or wrong; thats just how it is. Football player Odell Beckham Jr is one of the most famous wearers of the mohawk burst fade, so take your cues from him if youre looking to try out this bold and attention-grabbing style. 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Yeah, because having 60-80 yr old white guys running things has worked out so well lately.we should also commend them for extending their personal believes onto younger generations, because change is bad. That being said if Newton is going to be the face of the franchise the Panthers have the right to tell him the image they want him to portray. . Whether he wanted to get a tattoo or not he should have stood his ground and said respectfully sir, I dont have any tattoos or piercings, but I alone will decide if I do or I dont. If Cam wishes to get exposed tatoos, its his business, but then doesnt deserve to be rewarded for non-compliance when contract day rolls around. Turning this into a race issue is completely absurd. It is completely up to the owner how his team looks, just as it is in any business. I commend Richardson for saying what is on his mind and being upfront with Cam Newton. EvalAngell 7 years ago #11 While I can't tell you which players don't have tattoos, I can tell you that offensive linemen always have the worst ones. In fact, instead of having fancy tattoos, he decides to help humanity. no one cares about your jobs or your bosses rules The Yankees have a long standing ban on facial hair and long hair, and thats been working all right for them over the years. If this is Richardsons policy, why isnt the whole team held to this standard? I do understand that things can be taken to the extreme to the point of alienating people even though your behavior is perfect (its harder to relate to someone with multiple facial piercings and a grill than someone without those things)but overall I think its overkill to say no tats/piercings at all. And if I got them, and suddenly was let go, can I really say my rights have been infringed upon? French international NGolo Kante remains a humble human being despite his recent successes. I guess I can see the owners point as the face of the franchise but man it sure sounds pretty old school. He has just as much right to put expectations on his employees as any other owner of any other company. this, however, is taking it a step further by dictating how cam can look when hes not at work. To: BIGTROUBLEhow dare you judge people here in such a manner? The hard-earned money comes in the way of corporate sponsorships and advertising dollars. Both of my sister-in-laws kids fathers (dont even get me started) have MULTIPLE face tattoos (they also dont have a GED or a diploma, or a job between them-again, dont get me started). I think he is a control freak with some serious anger issues. Iniesta played for Barcelona for 22 years. The reason could be that he is still too young for tattoos on his body. And Im sure his agent wanted the commission on that money. You can. This is no different than someone going to work for a store that required a certain presentation.thats what the owner wants.his team.if Newton doesnt like it, he doesnt have to play! For someone who nearly died a few years ago and had to undergo a quadruple bypass, he has an odd way of showing an appreciation for life. He owns the team and has done nothing wrong in stating that to him. A policy has to be written and has to apply uniformly to everyone in similar circumstances. i think a TON of people are missing the point. Virgil Van Dijk Gets A Huge Compliment From Michael Owen. My boss wont let me have visible tats or piercings (I work for a bank, where I am a member of senior management). I would, however, question the wisdom of trading him just because he doesnt have an unmarked body. Whether he wanted to get a tattoo or not he should have stood his ground and said respectfully sir, I dont have any tattoos or piercings, but I alone will decide if I do or I dont. I have no problem with Richardson making a suggestion like that, its his company and hed like it if the face of his franchise was clean cut. I made that point in another post. Jerry Richardson has every right to ask that a player not have tats or piercings. In an era where football players flaunt their expensive possessions, Kante opted for a humble life and refuses to show off things. Most companies have an expectation that their leaders present themselves in a certain way. As the face of the organization for (presumably, if everything goes well) the next 10+ years, if not for life, you want to roll out a conservative image. Kudos to Cam for being well dressed and respectable to a potential owner. So what if hes old school. Gareth Bale, however, admits to giving his dad a shock by once wearing magnetic earrings for a family dinner back home in Cardiff. You bring in the best people to help you win. I think he has a right to tell the face of his franchise to not look like a disgrace not sure why so many people are taking offense to this. I thought, Oh my God! My mate was in and he felt proper awkward.. Denver Broncos. An employer has the right to create an image with its employees that it wants to foster with the public. In saying that Cam is up for it and he will be great, it is just going to take some time. SMHI wonder if he asked Blaine Gabbert the same thing during their visit. WebWe assumed 100 players (entries) for this tournament. Then Richardson would have to risk cutting talent (Im not a Cam fan), taking a PR hit and letting Cam take his talents to another team. I agree that this is both troubling and disturbing to say the least However, I have noticed that this is yet another example of the new corporate mentality that is being allowed to take over this country. I think its probably aimed at the Look at me persona that a lot of NFL players have adopted. It might be just me, but I care a lot more about how a player acts on and off the field than about how many body mods they have.
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