Growing up, he lived with his mother, father, and sister (JAMIE). How could she be so without human empathy that Chris Wattss mother says its okay if he killed Shannan? Yes, Shanann had a problem that Chris mother deliberately chose to feed her little girl some that could KILL HER. Mothers Day fell on May 12th. Nothing special. I grew up in upper middle class. Yet another Watts fan club rumor. And the whole time Shannan is dealing with this, Chris is cuddling back home with another woman. We won't post to any of your accounts without asking first. Article continues below advertisement Records show Nowak made. Also apparently Frankie receiving death threats and some really nasty messages.. CHILLING footage shows the moment triple-murderer Chris Watts stops to buy breakfast on the morning he disposed of the bodies of his wife and children. So an attack of Shanann [any attack] feels like an attack of who they are, and their belief systems. I dont think a trial is the only way of getting to those skeletons, though. Didnt Shanann say a few times that Colorado meant a drama-free life? Growing up, he lived with his mother, father, and sister JAMIE. These cookies will be stored in your browser only with your consent. We know what she was like. To me, all they wanted to do was save his life, just save his life. After after she is brutally murdered along with her children, her husbands family is waging a smear campaign against her and trying to salvage their own public image. At the very least, he may have felt theyd be inclined to forgive him given their own difficulties with Shanann, and certainly, Ronnie Watts has already told the media, If hes guilty, I can live with that.. They had intended to go but felt they couldnt after this. Despicable And completely typical Narcissistic behavior. But she disregarded the allergies. This sub is for factual information, mourning, and speculative discussion only - no harassment of the victims or family members. And learn about all teh times they bashed Shanann in front of her and behind her back. Her Thrivinga bomb waiting to go off. It wouldnt surprise me if Cindy Watts talked to Chris after the nut explosion and said Look, I am so sick of Shanann and those girls, if you dont divorce her or just get rid of her then I will tell her about your affair. It probably helped that her murder occurred shortly after a big blow up between Shannan and his parents. So, Shannans reaction was on point. You, me, Ronnie, Jamie, all of us will get through this together, because we love you so much, Cindy Watts whimpered. NOTHING. I thought it was odd. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. She looks horrible by what she said in the interview and sandi rzucheks letter in discovery of what went on. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. By no means am I justifying his actions. 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Everyone would be so sad for him that his family were gone and so pleased that he went on to find a new woman (Vomit). This site isnt in any camp except the true crime camp, which means investigate sometimes dispassionately what happened, and why. OH NO NO NO Shannan was way to good for this inbred family. It wouldnt surprise me if Cindy Watts talked to Chris after the nut explosion and said Look, I am so sick of Shanann and those girls, if you dont divorce her or just get rid of her then I will tell her about your affair. Passive aggressive and it smacks of Cindys influence. irrational buy-in to such an inevitable financial disaster. I dont know what it is yet, you are someone I always felt had a pure heart, a good soul, no-one, no-one, could ever say anything bad about you. Quotes displayed in real-time or delayed by at least 15 minutes. So sad. I get she had a problem and took offense to moms attitude toward the nut access, but to go on a Facebook rant was a bit much, imo. I want you, then, if this is your decision, then you get in there and make something [inaudible]. You can have a nut true allergy to only one tree nut. Ronnie blocked Shannan from Facebook. Charged with misdemeanor child abuse. Oh Remember when we were at the splash party in Colorado? CW parents were considered safe and good enough to babysit for up to a fortnight while Cw and Shanann were staying at places like Punta Cana. Perhaps he was trying to save his daughters from the madness he knew he had for a long time. CHRIS WATTS / Is This His Sister Jamie Lynn Williams AKA 'Trinket78' 4,581 views Jun 16, 2019 60 Dislike Share Save ParadiseMedia 4.72K subscribers CHRIS WATTS / Is This His Sister Jamie. \"Featuring Chris Watts, His Parents Cindy \u0026 Ronnie Watts and Sister, Jamie Lyn Williams, who - until now - managed to remain the MOST SECRETIVE and SILENT FIGURE in terms of the two families sucked into this case thus far.\"Chris Watts Playlist:https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVxQLTsXwHrd3TjIHmOWhCKbuD07llQ6ZThis video is for educational purposesDon't forget to Subscribe:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5c1crGPtnf3ZJ5TKWl918QSubscribe to my new vlog channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHOYcyT3bHfeEh4n65C1TYQ/Become a Patron:www.patreon.com/JimevaCrimeTime Love your take. It falls apart even further when you consider he didnt only kill Shanann, but terminated the pregnancy and also killed his own children. There are no sides in this tragedy. Well that maybe true according to Cindy however please explain the 80 bridal invitations that never got mailed in the attempts to embarrass Shanann with no one showing up. Two camps? Locked post. Yes, you learn to compromise for the sake of your spouse. Privacy Policy. God bless those poor victims. The women had all drawn lines in the sand and that takes a toll on everyone, I think.. It is a well documented mindset and interesting factoid, many of these murders take place on Sundays in August. Does the we refer to Ronnie and Jamie Williams [Chris Watts sister] as well? I definitely was watching Chris body language, and at that point in time, he definitely could have been freaking out because his wife was gone and his children were gone, but I just personally thought the way he was acting was a little strange, he said. Tell it to God some day. If this is indeed his sister, she knew about his affair with Nickole Sessinger prior to the murders. Theres people who believe Chris is a good guy, there are people who believe hes a monster, and then there are people who understand the complexity of the human condition and what might drive a person to a psychotic break which I think is exactly what happened. The prison exclusive also showcases Watts sister, Jamie Lyn Williams, who managed to remain the most secretive and silent figure in terms of the two families sucked into this case thus far. Email In Touch at contact@intouchweekly.com. Chris Watts got flowers for me yesterday for fun, Shanann Watts says on Thanksgiving Day. His former mistress on Inside Edition said they watched the movie Shutter Island the first night they had sex. Watts confessed to brutally murdering his pregnant wife Shanann, 34, and children Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3. But it does change the dynamics I also dont think she would have said she would tell about his affairs. Where the hell is she in all this? Cindy said they didnt go because she hated Shanann even back then, and was angry because Chris would not obey her wish for him to stop being with her. Scan this QR code to download the app now, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-chp2Xo5Xo. Chris had CeeCee on his shoulders and Shanaan was walking next to them. There can also be a rhyme and reason to insanity, and its true crimes mission to find those rhymes and reasons. Likewise, Chris's birthplace is Spring Lake, North Carolina, U.S., and his zodiac sign is Taurus. No way his mother would have said that crap. You also have the option to opt-out of these cookies. Chris was very close to his *father*, so while he might have tolerated a high level of ShanAnn aggression toward his *mother*, when she cut off *both* his parents, that was a bridge too far. I just wished you would have talked to us more.. For those who believe Shanann killed her kids, would it have been for one or more of the same reasons I listed for Chris? (With regard to CHRIS' background and upbringing.) Be the first to know about the biggest stories as they break. Shanann should have wiped this woman from her life, says a lot about her character that she still had a single thing to do with this woman. Ashley's main point is that Chris Watts was a seething, passive-aggressive narcissist. Shanann tried to involve these in laws from hell. Those invested in the case have wondered why she has yet to speak out. At 1:27 in this video link, Cindy Watts says it so quickly its easy to miss it completely. Did you watch Chris Watts sentencing hearing? They just cannot stand this woman including her own son, Hi Beth, well to begin with. But one way or another theyre coming out. What if he married Shanann because, in some strange way, she reminded him of his mom? So she travels to give them medicine or treatment. Nothing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING that Shanann did merited a death sentence. Your comment fully reveals how humans can distort and exaggerate most of what they hear. Cindy didnt kill anybody. It doesnt end here. His father struggled with substance abuse after he CHRIS moved out. Chris Watts 2012 Speech on Communication Speech, Relationship Deterioration and Repair; Chris Watts grew up somewhere on this road on the outskirts of Spring Lake, North Carolina. Sure gets ones mind in thinking mode! Chris Watts 'rebellious' sister Jamie drops 'Watts' - Was loved by Chris Watts Wife TV NEWS 1.38K subscribers Subscribe Share 20K views 3 years ago #ShanannWatts #ChrisWatts #Thrive Chris. We just love you. Cindi should never have tried to expose CeCe to nuts. But opting out of some of these cookies may have an effect on your browsing experience. Im not attempting to conflate the two choices, just the fact of the toll it took on them. Agree with all of the above. You misfit husband and misfit daughter are the only ones who could and can. As soon as we intuit a reason, that is a motive, the Shanann camp get very angry. Both were their mothers golden boys and both mothers disapproved of their daughter-in-laws. Quite a start huh? Shanann herself fed CeCe Thrive bars with nuts in them, but it was coconut which isnt considered a true tree nut. A community to discuss the murders of Shan'ann, Bella, Celeste, and Nico Watts, who were murdered by their confessed killer, Christopher Lee Watts, now serving 5 life sentences at Dodge County Correctional Institution on Waupun, WI. Its one thing to say you will do something and then change your mind. The Mother-in-law never saw the post about the nuts that she did on Facebook. Firstly, in the Casey Anthony case, Caylee died the day after Fathers Day. Proof is in the planning, deliberate smothering of his 2 little girls TWICE, and murder of tgeir mother and baby Nico.all planned weeks in advance. So she travels to give them medicine or treatment. Hate to say it but Shanann emasculated him verbally a lot. We know because the babysitter told the police all this during her interview with them. Its still not unlike other families and interpersonal relationships between MILs and DILs in so many marriages. You were, you were, she was just, she was you, Cindy cried. For me, this revelation enmity between Shanann and Cindy Watts reminds me of two aspects in two other cases. I also do not think it is uncommon for a person to choose a spouse who mirrors the opposite of their personality. Her version is a very twisted version. Or if youre a woman, you have submitted that youre trash as a woman, from being subjected to those men who spend their time making youtube videos saying they dont want women, but instead of leaving women alone, they spend their time trying to make women feel bad, The WATTS family that were inlaws to Shanann, all THREE of them, give all in laws a bad name. But I dont live my life on Facebook and/or get my emotional validation and ego strokes online. The scenario where Chris saw ShanAnn killing the girls wasnt Chris own idea originally. You say that he killed his family because he wanted a new life with his mistress, not because he disliked his wife, so did he kill his wife because he liked her then? [UPDATED] | True Crime Rocket Science / #tcrs, Yes, there is a way to test whether bodies could be placed through the Thief Hatch with [or possibly without] breaking bones but youre not going to like it. I have a daughter in law, in my opinion the greater onus is on me to get along with her. She waited for that opportunity to do something so evil and ugly when nobody was around to see it. Cindy replied: No, I cant lose you. My opinion of the Watts family is that they are some of the scummiest people in the world. This subreddit is to discuss facts, speculation, and evidence. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. She was pretty controlling. Cookie Notice The dumb bitch. John List is the best known example of this, but there are many others. Shanann was still in Colorado in June. These cookies do not store any personal information. I, too, am interested in knowing more about the family dynamics, characters involved and MLM influence. The sister Jamie said she couldnt get off work to attend the bridal party events prior to the wedding. So rehash all the old disputes and wounds, nothing stands but his murderous actions. One of the younger kids at the house pulled out some ice cream. Cindy KNEW about the nut allergy, but did not believe it was serious, so she left chocolate out for the 3-year-old to get into and fed her peanut ice cream. Chris and Nikkis affair started at the end of June, lasted through July and into August until Chris murdered his family. This is my decision. CW had tended to side with Shanann against his mother until not long before the horrendous murders. Pussy whipped? Exclusive Visit with the Colorado Killer Chris Watts and His Last 3 Living Relatives.The exclusive also showcases Watts' sister, Jamie Lyn Williams, who managed to remain the most secretive and silent figure in the saga.The Watts Family Tapes is slated to debut on Your Content via Facebook Live Fri. Oct. 23.https://www.yc.news/2020/10/03/exclusive-prison-visit-with-the-colorado-killer-chris-watts-and-his-last-3-living-relatives-to-debut-oct-23/https://fb.me/e/1xvjL7nbyThis video is for educational purposes:Chris Watts Mothers Book Parts 1-6https://youtu.be/pFXjLuNvWXkDon't forget to Subscribe:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5c1crGPtnf3ZJ5TKWl918QSubscribe to my new vlog channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHOYcyT3bHfeEh4n65C1TYQ/ She doesnt show up for critical, life-altering-for-immediate-family court dates either, does she? He was always the quiet kid who followed the rules. We didnt attend because Shanann and I just couldnt get along. Hold on. I think ,Chris killed his daughters because one of them saw their dead mother rolled up in their sheets. Shannan was a threat to the Narc Family. That day had to be hugely significant in her life because the father of her own child wasnt around, and because her own father then and there wasnt exactly father of the year, in fact for the previous months hed been threatening to divorce Cindy Anthony and that meant they all might lose the house. Cindy Watts had a great hand in manipulating her daughter and husband to side with her against Shannan. 2022 Circle of Friends Donors . Theres no such thing as all good or all bad. What if Chris hatred of Shanann was misplaced? THEY WERE ALL EVIL in not going. the person who gave him the oxy had to be in his family since he said hed take whoever it was to the grave. Inside edition= Fake News. Chris Watts with his Sister Wife, Children & Relationships Chris met Shanann Watts in 2010; she was an independent representative for a multilevel marketing company called 'Le-vel,' which is focused on selling the wellness product called 'Thrive.' Right now doing everything they can, it-it just scares the living crap out of me knowing its come to this. Monstrous dad Chris Watts was signaled to make up a story by his mother prior to pleading guilty to the murder of his pregnant wife and two daughters, exclusive video obtained by Your Content set to debut Oct. 23 reveals. Chris Watts rebellious sister Jamie drops Watts - Was loved by Chris Watts Wifehttps://reachableshop.com/https://www.instagram.com/reachableshop/On August 15, 2016, exactly two years prior to the day #ChrisWatts would confess to murder, #ShanannWatts welcomed her amazing, awesome and down-to-earth sister-in-law Jamie to the #Thrive by #LeVel family.Cops: With regard to Chris Watts background and upbringing. WATTS [Licks lips]: Im so happy that theyre here. Yeah Gabby, and it sure is too bad that we cant clear this all up and move on well we can, but Shanan, CeeCee and Bella cannot because Chris Watts choked them to death. Likewise, Chris has a sister named Jamie Lyn Williams. Copyright 2015 - 2021 Original Media Group Corporation. And his father enabled it. Bothe women were pregnant and both were financially strapped. I understand you might not like your mother in law and your mother in law very well could be a shrew, terrible woman like Cindy. The books provide a much deeper and more thorough analysis. My understanding is that the Rzucek family is being harassed by online trolls receiving death threats, even but not the Watts family. 11 mo. From CWs perspective, when SWs *parents* came and stayed in their home *for over a year*, that was more evidence that SWs parents/side of the family would be a major part of their lives, while his own family, whom he was very close to, would not. Ive written a trilogy of books about the Peterson case, and a trilogy on the Watts case, so the similarities are all too clear. They have no history with law enforcement,domestic violence or mental problems. The prison exclusive also showcases Watts' sister, Jamie Lyn Williams, who managed to remain the most secretive and silent figure in the saga. We are not here to ask for leniency and are not in any way condoning or tolerating the crime that has occurred or the pain that has been caused their attorney read. Thats it. Chris Watts was done with his wife and children so he slaughtered them. Anyone who left a child with the Watts family were completely ignorant of how truly dangerous it was. She made that post in a private allergy support page. Cindy and Jamie teamed up to place nuts on the table. Every time he sees a wedding photo, he remembers it wasnt quite the perfect day the photos suggested it was. Then she gave Bella an icecream with nuts in it and left CeCe with none as she did not buy any special nut free food. Read shanann watts mothers statement in discovery about other incidents. I could almost hear Cindy Watts yelling and pressuring her husband to do so. His full birth name is Christopher Lee Watts. Shes a piece of work, that one. Thank you! Tension and stress. you can see that just in the text messages in the documentary. Their behavior spoke volumes. Were all just people. When something needs to be done, *someone* needs to do it. Required fields are marked *. 20K views, 82 likes, 21 loves, 980 comments, 173 shares, Facebook Watch Videos from Your Content: Featuring Colorado Killer Chris Watts, His Parents Cindy & Ronnie Watts and Sister, Jamie Lyn. One of the primary activities at a wedding is to enable the two sides of the family to meet and get to know each other. Next time she will not do thatoh wait, never mind she cant correct her behavior because Chris killed her and the girls. The nut incident. Throughout all my reading of the case Ive never seen much about his sister Jamie (who I believe was Jamie Watts Williams according to SWs fb). You are right Nan, Shanan should not have gone on Facebook to vent about her mother in law and the dangerous nuts incident. and our Whatever amount of attention Shanann wasted on this family was to much. I have two sons and there is nothing or anyone who could keep me from attending his wedding. That has got to hurt, though, if Chris Watts and Shananns big day was all about Shanann, and Chris family werent even there. All Rights Reserved. It is mandatory to procure user consent prior to running these cookies on your website. Its that simple. Just because someone does something terrible doesnt have to make them EVIL. With your comment where you know . She works with patients in home care. just wanted to know about anyone elses theories :). Does anyone know if shes ever made any kind of public statement or opinion? It was very obvious in the video that they didnt like her at all. Im not going to name them. She was human and had flaws just like all of us. A child can die from eating even the tiniest piece of nut. The sister wanted to get involved in the wedding planning nad volunteered to do the invitations. I note from the discovery file she also had a troubled relationship with SW so it would interesting to know more. Previous post 10 X Audio Excerpts from the TWO FACE series read by the author [Includes the Story behind what went into writing the various narratives] Next post "The reason the medical examiner found Oxycodone in Shan'ann's system is because I gave it to her" - Chris Watts And was it just me or was it in poor taste (to say the least), Jamie talking to Chris about her kids and what they've been doing, pretending as if he HADN'T JUST MURDERED HIS OWN CHILDREN, JAMIE'S OWN NIECES?! o His father worked as a Parts Manager for a Ford dealership. Welcome to the Post Truth Phase of the Chris Watts Case, Exclusive Interview with the Lindstrom Couple, Proof The Third Baby Was All Chris Watts Idea, The Final Three Weeks of the Phone Data Review #2YearsAgoTodayCW. Chris Watts is a liar and like all sociopath narcissist did a smear campaign on Shanann. Both these families, had multiple discord amongst them all. I think it makes more sense the theory if CW hated his mother and transferred this hate onto Shanann.. Are additional videos available of Chris with other visitors to prison? I see a lot of people saying there are two camps in response to this and there really arent. And for those who say, Cindy Watts was a witch! When I see Chris pictures from when he was younger, I see dead eyes. Any cookies that may not be particularly necessary for the website to function and is used specifically to collect user personal data via analytics, ads, other embedded contents are termed as non-necessary cookies. Shannan was at the height of wedding planning which is the most stressful time, and she probably decided she couldnt deal with Jamies lack of involvement. Through his own admission, he says he did it to be with Nikki. She works with patients in home care. Maybe one day, snapped Watts. "Do you have any idea where she is?" But she told Bella that CeCe would die if she ate coconut!! Does anyone know how the video* of the conversation between Chris Watts and his sister, Jamie Lyn Williams, was leaked to the internet? We just love you. This community exists to discuss the murders of the Watts family and the subsequent arrest of Chris Watts. We know in the months leading up to the murders, for Fathers Day [June 17th, 2018] Shanann posted pictures of her father on her wedding day. [She looked so] serious. Nick, they didnt attend the wedding because Shann,Ann fired Jamie and her children from the wedding a week earlier because Jamie couldnt get off work to attend the bridesmaids hair and nail events. He never expected to be seriously challenged because everyone liked him and Mommy thought he was perfect. It wasnt about killing his inner child but resurrecting it. But Shanann accused them of tampering with her food. Its been nearly three years since Chris Watts pleaded guilty to murdering his pregnant wife,Shanann Watts, and their two daughters Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3, but his family still isnt convinced hes a killer.