I also tend to bus 2 steel, 2 plastic, 2 reds, 1 blues, 1 batteries. To be throughput unlimited, a balancer must fulfil the following conditions: Balancers often do not fulfill the second condition because of internal bottlenecks. by RLS0812 Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:22 am, Post I tried using next-level products (i.e. Paris, Hamburg If you need more inject more material later instead of widening the bus. Although a main bus can give you a huge advantage, it's still up to you if you want to use it. This is sometimes done to get Items crafted into a chest for personal use like pipe which only uses Iron plates. Definitely 4 green circuits. All rights reserved. Some of the most popular companies departing from Hamburg are: Comati PSG, DTG Deutsche Touring GmbH, Sindbad, Union Ivkoni, Winew and Rute Auto. by sha664817 Fri Feb 01, 2019 6:57 am, Post This Factorio Base Tour showcases a magnificent 5.2k SPM (Science Per Minute) Mutliple Main Bus Megabase made by Hornet! The easiest way to do a two-material split off is to start with the position of the belt near the assembler, and work backwards. Valve Corporation. - through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission. It will just depend on you on which design you would do as long as the conveyor belt is included. Valve Corporation. All purchases through these links help out the channel and when possible also give you guys discounts!Epic Games Store: https://www.epicgames.com/store/en-US/?epic_affiliate=jd-plays\u0026epic_gameId=undefinedHumble Bundle Store: https://www.humblebundle.com/?partner=jdplaysHow to find me?-----------------------------------------------------Feel bad about Adblocker? - Thanks for this! https://wiki.factorio.com/index.php?title=Tutorial:Main_bus&oldid=182000. - Hamburg, Kolding Advertisement When logistic robots are available one might start moving some items by robots instead of using the bus. Add mods to increase your enjoyment, from small tweak and helper mods to complete game overhauls, Factorio's ground-up Modding support has allowed content creators from around the world to design interesting and innovative features. Place inserters as per screenshot -- only inserters need long-arms. Putting a lane-balancer after a split-off is not necessary most of the time as the rest moves on if the belt has no draw or if only one lane is used. In place they are used sparingly, 1 gear factory provides more than enough for an assembly line, and they can be placed such that the iron comes on half the assembly line, and the gears are placed on the other half. When one doesn't have enough production to saturate a belt (or splits it into more) then this can be called a "fake"-bus as it can not be saturated. When your need for materials becomes too great, you may want to consider moving some production OFF of the bus and feeding it in from other locations. Search reviews. This item will only be visible in searches to you, your friends, and admins. They are also inefficient to belt -- 1 copper plate makes 2 copper cables, inflating the need for belts by two-fold! For the belt close to the assembler, split off half a lane of iron plates. Lane balancers may be output balanced or input balanced. Mister's Bar and Lanes. Yet! Using a non-prioritizing split-off will only distribute the shortage, not magically create more production. This page was last edited on 31 August 2020, at 10:02. The resulting balancer is usually larger than a balancer that was initially designed to be throughput unlimited. As of 0.16 Splitters can prioritize one in- and output lane, therefore the above design can supply fully saturated belts if the splitters are set up in a way that prioritizes the output belt (to earlier production) rather than letting items go on. Belt balancers utilize the mechanic that splitters output items in a 1:1 ratio onto both their output belts. Most basic science is done and I reworked it to start pushing towards beacon based systems. There are alternative designs, for example, using splitter priorities to fully prefer the setups near the start of the main bus and only allow materials to go through to a later setup if that earlier setup's needs are satisfied. Having smaller groups of only one or two is also not a bad thing. So you should generally have 4 iron, 4 copper, 4 green circuits, and then you can do 2/2 steel/plastic to start out, then as you progress and get other resources made you can either leave them local (for gears/copper wire) or add them to the main bus on belts of 2 - so red circuits, maybe batteries etc. Bus terminal is located approximately 2.2 km from the city centre, which is approximately a 10 minute ride. And instead of rebalancing you can use priority splitters. I was pleasantly surprised when I saw you were behind this. Amsterdam, Hamburg 0eNqVld9ugyAUxl/FnKstwRbwT1sfY7fL0mhLHIlFh9DMGN99qO1mWrrCFfHI9+NwvgP0UFSaNZILBVkP/FCLFrL3HlpeirwaY6prGGRw5lJpE0Eg8tMYmGeEFAYEXBzZN2RkQB7Kt4WSWpVcsdNC1lRcKSYXsshBpmQu2qaWKixYpRbiePhAwITiirN509NHtxf6VJhlMvKIgaCpWyOrxbiqQYUUQWeGeBgTusFQdwz5BxN5ZxPZMLE3htowiTMGXykIjlyyw/wrtjBT70LdQKkFuvmFamO7LGVtxidY01bXXqq1avTYNXfgrW8hsa2Ou/v2tqS1SubEiA1BsKcX+HnVCPH1lzhAqb8X+M8KLh44QSKHIl6sxavEIVHvQ2I3JvEx13rMSOqCwBeEPYuN72as9wbZ+p5OgzEX7HQZZ4tnBkGVG52J0XDaUyB5+amCl6IL1nqtBf/SbE9fg9xMPTPZTuA0jmmabiihu2H4AQXcOK0=, 0eNqVlNFugzAMRX8F+WmTwkpSSlc+Y6/TVEEbdZZoYMGphir+fYZOHVrTijwhQu7J9Y3xGcrK6caiIcjPgLvatJC/n6HFgymqYY26RkMOJ7TkeEWAKY7DwmVHrKAXgGavvyGXvQhQvk2UyqtE0seJrKmQSNuJbDlDRrYwbVNbiktd0USc9h8CtCEk1Jeix5dua9yx5GNyeY8hoKlbltVmOJVRMW/t+JH2g6F/GDUbkzygLIPNLH2YNBijfJjVbMzVjIA9Wr27fFIeZnZ707cJvaweuFpfCY6v2B5szc/HWQ++ftumdtS4oUFuuK+hoSU+d5sZ9cXXAqUPIZPA3L1GpAy9Pb8ZFRx38pc2mjthy+BO97tLQ+L2tpNcBXSk30QWWov3p5XrwBHCFJ5t4xzMJxNeQFWwjNdUPFYUWTx8UvRUdtHCLZzBL6e36jkqeetJ23bkZmmqsmytpNr0/Q+uzw2D. 4 should be max, as even if you run 4.. you will still run out as the belts just acts as buffer.. the real key is to have more inputs to the main buss, or and give some factorys direct link that matches theyr requirement from the furnaces. So you should generally have 4 iron, 4 copper, 4 green circuits, and then you can do 2/2 steel/plastic to start out, then as you progress and get other resources made you can either leave them local (for gears/copper wire) or add them to the main bus on belts of 2 - so red circuits, maybe batteries etc. First of all, you'll need to think of the best area in where to put it. All rights reserved. Hamburg, Giessen All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. if its easier on the group to explain, I'd be happy to be suggested a video that covers such dilemmas and any others that I'm not yet imagining. You especially want more gears and iron plates because that's what your betls cost to produce. To balance belts it has to be made sure that the output belts contain an equal number of items from each input belt. The balancers/taps get very large above 4 since your next logical jump is 8. For the belt furthest from the assembler, split off green circuits. A throughput limited universal balancer may only have the capacity for a few unused outputs. For the belt furthest from the assembler, split off copper plates. What items one puts on a bus is a personal preference. Bring the belt to the target lane, then split off, making sure you make the T-junction BEFORE connecting it to ensure that product fills only a single side of the belt. Putting a lane-balancer after an inherently balanced build that produces the item is also not necessary as then half of the production pauses and the other half fills the moving lane to saturation. Look into what products use your resources and how many of those resources you can produce. Place another belt along the output side of the assemblers. A guaranteed method to achieve throughput unlimited balancers is to place two balancers back to back that fulfil the first condition for throughput unlimited balancers (100% throughput under full load). You'll get more benefit from your modules if you prioritize using them for more expensive things first. The bottleneck in this balancer is that the two middle belts only get input from one splitter. That way at every step along the bus a few items are split off and used up and when the production comes to a stop the items go on to be used by the next production. Use the belt throughput numbers to determine how many lanes it should have. - Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. This is fixed by adding more furnace/mine set ups to keep production high. Other times, this is not an option. What should I put on my new main bus and how many belts of each item? Balancers that are input balanced take evenly from all input belts/belt lanes. In Factorio, having a main bus is an advantage, however it must be well-designed to make sure that it could be used properly and efficiently. I've had many playthroughs of the vanilla and mildly modded factorio but until now have consisted of main bus's of ingredients and trains that only bring ores from long distances to feed the fires. Just found you on Youtube last year. Same with the production that is to the side of the bus, leave space between the builds for later expansion or belts that go between, at least three, six to ten is fitting. When one wants to use the items on their bus one could directly take items off the bus as if it is just a belt, though that would mean an extremely long bus and useless lengths of other belts. Two science packs made efficiently and traveling together on the same belt! I have made about two lines of iron and copper in my last few vanilla games. 0 reviews that are not currently recommended. This can lead to designs of a base consisting of only train-stations with small logistic networks without any belts. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. 7. I am currently thinking bigger now and starting a new game with a starter base and then working on building 'towns' that each produce stuff and use trains instead of a main bus to move supplies between the towns. Green & blue circuits share a line going in. Place a regular inserter and a long armed inserter to feed each Science assembler. There are numerous main bus blueprint designs you can choose from and use when in a match. Hmm I was doing 2 lines for green 1 each for blue and red and i also space my lines 4 spaces apart for all my fluids and a litter needs. - This allows for expanability of systems, and easy pulling from the Bus. by Rjskeet Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:05 am, Post Buy Factorio here: https://www.humblebundle.com/store/factorio?partner=jdplaysMore tutorials: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnIE0W-m629c4nhPTspGRVm35Zr80CZTgWelcome to my Factorio Tutorial series where I'll be trying to teach you guys everything I know about Factorio. Your resources still come from a mine somewhere, so your bus will get thinned out after a while even with balancing. Balancers that are output balanced distribute evenly to all output belts/belt lanes. Community-run subreddit for the game Factorio made by Wube Software. It's all about trial and error as you start out, you can't be afraid to build something and let it run for a few hours to see how it works - if its not working right delete it and try something else. how many belts of iron/copper/green circuits should I make, I'm currently planning on doing 4iron,4coppper,2green circuits. Place these one tile away from the Red Science output belt. Glad you found it useful! Universal balancers can be throughput limited. So, if only one side of that splitter gets input, as can be seen in the gif, it can only output one belt even though the side of the splitter is fed by a splitters which gets two full belts of input. I love using helmod to do all calculations in-game, but of course a spreadsheet is fine as well. Alternatively, one can make split-off setups without priority splitters. In Factorio, having a main bus is an advantage, however it must be well-designed to make sure that it could be used properly and efficiently. by Rjskeet Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:44 pm, Post it really stacks up over the 5/6 process steps to make a rocket. How many main bus lines do you generally use? Instead, I have a decentralized system where separate modular areas have inputs/outputs delivered/retrieved by train. - By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. All production. All production and builds in the factory are belt based and there are 4 identical, but rotated \"mini bases\" that each produce 1.3k SPM and fit into a corner triangle. I dont make any two buses identical unless Im following a blueprint for some starter base. by Rjskeet Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:53 am, Post Place Concrete or Stone Brick under a couple lanes of your bus & in one of the spaces between lanes (at a minimum) since it gives you a speed boost when running. Blue belt can transport 40 items per second fully compressed. Use your imagination to design your factory, combine simple elements into ingenious structures, apply management skills to keep it working and finally protect it from the creatures who don't really like you.Join forces with other players in cooperative Multiplayer, create huge factories, collaborate and delegate tasks between you and your friends. - And instead of rebalancing you can use priority splitters. Really quite unique in my opinion.The factory utilizes 2-8 single length single headed trains for the raw material transportation. While the core gameplay is in the form of the freeplay scenario, there are a range of interesting challenges in the form of the Scenario pack, available as free DLC. Whether one uses a bus is often decided before starting a map or when first building an array of furnaces. These items are often just put into chests for personal use rather than on a bus. Every item that is used in more than one recipe, got it's own production area with train inputs and train outputs, in my 2700 SPM game. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. Youre allowed to do your bus as you see fit. Oldenburg, Hamburg by CJ5Boss Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:40 pm, Post EDIT: Here is an example of what I call a stage 2 "starter" base. by Aeternus Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:54 pm, Post Sharing makes us all stronger and more inspired to come up with new ideas! Keep the main bus, build your new base close to it. The gif on the right shows a 4 4 balancer being fed by two belts, but only outputting one belt which means that its throughput in that arrangement is 50%. Split-off designs aren't strictly necessary but help immensely. Plastic x1 (recommend x2) Batteries x1. The Steam Community of Rust shared some insights on how to design and build your main bus. With that, here's a main bus guide for Factorio, including the blueprint, designs, as well as alternatives and other important details. Main reason I run a 4/2/2 bus for my start base is that it allows me to produce continuously produce a SP3 and PM3 module in yellow assemblers and still have enough resources for 10/12/24 science in blue assemblers. There are also over 200 trains on the map.Overall a very impressive and extremely satisfying base, both visually and with its huge and efficient production capabilities. 33 $$ Moderate Sports Bars, Bowling, American (Traditional) Broadway Sports Center. In general, no block should be greatly than 4 but 1 and 2 are fine. Mad respect. Personally, Ill run 8 lines of copper, 8 lines of iron, 2 lines of steel, and 1 line each for coal and stone. However, each triangular base section is an entire huge main bus! You'll want production running while you work to keep you supplied. Make sure to leave room for a lubricant pipe to feed the blue belt assemblers. - What bus companies operate the routes starting from Hamburg? - I do put steel and batteries on the bus. - Belt Balancers - how they work and how to make them, Finding balance: A guide to belt balancers, https://wiki.factorio.com/index.php?title=Balancer_mechanics&oldid=183149. Munich, Hamburg I also have a return bus that carries science packs back to the lab area. Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America). The 4 line meta comes from a time of fixed underground lengths and the need for even balancer sizes. Sulfuric Acid: Used for both batteries and Processing Units (Blue Circuits). One of the most notable designs include the use of conveyor belts. Look at how many different recipes use the thing you have decided to bus, and then estimate how much throughput your factory will need. Hamburg, Pristina by Miravlix Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:19 am, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited. Using iron plates as index 100: Copper: 78 Steel: 7 Plastic: 15 Coal: 13 Iron Gear: 6 Electronic Circuit: 38 Advanced Circuit: 6 Stone Brick: 2 Note that this is for science only. A good example of this are copper cables as they consume more space on a belt than in the form of copper plates. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Kharkiv, Hamburg Any arbitrary amount of input belts should be able to go to any arbitrary amount of output belts. by netmand Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:16 pm, Post Some people like to have fluids part of their bus which could include: Having all possible items on a bus results in a huge wide bus with a lot of belt-buffer for expensive items and standing belts of output-items that won't get used in another process. But for some other parts of the bus you can easily do 6 belts next to each other - Done! This formula is based on the number of nodes in a Bene network, which is essentially the same as a throughput unlimited balancer it allows any input to reach any output. Hamburg. Here are some Assembly line examples to get you started: Science pack production can efficiently pull off of the main bus to have an expandable system. The easiest way to upgrade belts is simply run along the line, holding down the mouse button to place belts on top of existing ones. Some people build these assemblies off to the side, or transport these products by train as they run out of space near the beginnings of their factory. Press J to jump to the feed. Sometimes this can be fixed by looping the unused output back around the balancer and distributing it among the inputs. Neatness matters!
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