This settlement was set aside on 20 December 1621, and only the patronage of Govan was left to the University. The faults were caused mainly by a lack of insulation and waterproofing at the joints in the concrete panels, which made up the structure. Fond memories include falling in the Elder Park pond and breaking my collar bone, trying to do the fish and chips, building gang huts in the air-raid shelters and raking the middens. It was a Magical childhood play area, the closestairs were a Pirate Ship; Hospital; Wee Shop; School, aye in the 1950's we used our imagination rather than computers to stop us being bored! Classification Housing Estate (Modern) Alternative Name (s) Moorpark Housing Estate; 'wine Alley'. See more of Sunny Govan Memories on Facebook. See more of Sunny Govan Memories on Facebook. They were friendly and knowledgable, it was a great experience. My grandparents on my mother's side were McElhinneys and attended Plantation Church while my dad's side and myself attending our Lady and St Margaret's Chapel. In early 1989 police discovered a team of young drug dealers were operating in Wine Alley, led by older man Eddie Burnside. Related Pages. Govan was thriving in those days. We lived in a low-down coal-fire heated home at 9 Lettoch Street and we only ever moved once and that was to the house directly above us. The huge shoe shop was, I think Bayne and Ducketts. My earliest memory is when I was about 4 playing outside our close 39 Nethan St, my mum had got me all dressed up as the photographer was coming to take our photo , me and my 2 sisters sitting on the sideboard I wandered out the house with my new truck with wee soldiers in the back and was playing in a puddle when the photographer arrived and had to get all cleaned up again before the photo was taken, I have FTD (dementia) this affects my short term memory but fortunately not my long term memories, I have cousins who still stay around the wine alley. Forgotten account? I was attending what was then known as Duns Academy when my father decided to emigrate to Canada. The jumps I remember were at the swing park at Harhill across from the steamie and at Greenfield where we jumped the middens and shelter and going along the wall (single brick width). My Gran Haggerty lived in 3 Helen Street Govan (above the CO OP). In this way they dispelled the idea of the workers being "work-shy" and also wanted to illustrate the long-term viability of the yards. 'Wine Alley', Govan Pop: 10,875 (whole ward) Problems: Mainly drug-related crime. One thing is clear about Woodinville's Woodin Creek, it is very dog friendly! A Gannett Company. Then there was the shake the blanket with my older sisters and friends my turn wasn't coming fast enough so as usual I was whining so they gave me my turn and shake the blanket shake the blanket 1-2-3 they lifted me in the air and let the blanket go results bleeding nose and they all got a right telling off. We protect your brands globally and help consumers find your wines. It was very hard during the war for our mother as our brother was three years older and our father was a shipyard worker, working nightshift. This is a small family owned and operated place. It is situated 2.5 miles (4.0 km) west of Glasgow city centre, on the south bank of the River Clyde, opposite the mouth of the River Kelvin and the district of Partick. Years ago Govan was a brilliant shopping place. The Old Govan Fair. I remember the Neptune Street bakery was always flooded and full of cats but people would still queue up outside it. Like Pauline I also went to St. Margaret's and I also recall Susan's Shop. Men and Boys by Hugh Cavanagh. [20], Traditionally viewed as a lower working-class area, Govan has typically supported the Labour Party, but the Scottish National Party (SNP) has also been strong there. We offer great benefits for wine merchants, hotels and restaurants offering your wines. I remember the days my sister and I would take part in the fair while we were in a dancing school, which was named Thompsons. Below are memories and stories about Govan posted by visitors to the site. It occurs in the buyers market where access to housing is based on the ability to pay, and it also takes place in the council allocation system where the disadvantaged are lumped together in sink housing schemes. When we moved to Nitshill in 1060, I realised how much I had loved Govan. I now live in Brydekirk village but I'll never forget Govan. I was brought up on Broomloan Road, Ibrox across from Ibrox high flats.the Ibrox house pub was just up road from me as well. One hypothesis is that it was a prehistoric burial mound. They suggested that the hill may have been a 12th-century Norman motte. There existed a hospital in the area, and as quasi-religious foundations were not taxed, it had never been assigned to a sheriffdom. There was another pub next door, The Bellrock. The Burnside gang were found with 150,000 in heroin and a large sum in cash. Built in the early 1930s by the 1970s the Wine Ally had developed a fearsome reputation, the council "modernised" it and tried to reintroduce the original n. If you have a complaint about the editorial content which relates to View listing information for 7285 Hedgerose Drive, Cumming, GA, 30028. I worked there for a time early 60s I left in 1962. The City of Woodinville's Mayor Mike Millan cut the ribbon to mark the occasion. We always used to stop at your house on the way home from St. Anthony`s school, for a blether. Through the ages people have lived in houses, building them according to the climate, topography, the material available, and the social and cultural ideas of the time. We had and still have such a loving family even although our parents and grandparents have passed, but Govan made us that way because it was a great community and you knew who your neighbours were. 114m Nailsby Taylor . Govan was then one of 15 police divisions in the former Strathclyde Police and accounted for 20% of all homicides in the force. My mother, Elsie Walker lived with siblings; Edward, Betty, Beatrice and Edith in Belch Street, it was a small street with only one close and not one single Govan person I have ever met can remember it! It was great reading all the stories. Went back recently, but things are not the same. This website and associated newspapers adhere to the Independent Press Standards Organisation's Know your enemy. This article is about the district in Glasgow. I agreed and the result is the Report, which you now have today which is meant for the October 17th World Poverty Day. We love it here, but still go back to Scotland every other year. Lots of memories of that area. "And so for the time being I have finished this series (4th book comming this year) what an amazing book I especially loved the mention of the wine alley in govan as that's where my mama is from! We moved to a new house in Mallaig Road which was built on what used to be Millers Farm where I stayed until I got married. [15], With Morris Pollok as its first Provost, the Burgh and its Commissioners ensured that during the next 48 years Govan became a well-equipped, modern town. From terrace proud to alley base I know thee as my mother's face. [24], Despite these developments, there were numerous older buildings around Govan until quite recently, most notably the terraces and tenements situated around Govan Road. Good times we had, wonder where they all are now and if they remember me. 9/1 Within a years, Moorepark had gained the abusive epithet of the Wine Alley. With its bad name, many people from Moorepark could not get jobs while those that could often disguised their addresses and, if they a they moved away because of its bad reputation Gradually, the decrease in services, coupled with, a by now high turnover of tenancie let house, led to the accretion of demoralised families coming into the scheme and all the stories about Moorparks good-for-nothing population seemed to be justified. Of all the memories that I hold dear as a very young boy, was the guy pushing a barrow every Saturday afternoon selling bags of whelks! Would love to get in touch with any old pals for the era 1965-1976. I try and tell my grandkids what a fanfastic place it was to grow up, no money but lots of pals and never bored. Svisiace strnky. Moreover, there will be no demolition or destruction of any part of Govans heritage on the contrary the important Iron Age site of Doomster Hill will be marked with grass, and not encroached upon by the new housing while a special corridor will link it with Govan Old Parish Church, which is one of the earliest Christian sites in Britain. Management of entrance into the block zones was poor while the risk of personal attack inside and outside the flats was high. 81 Albums for you to enjoy : Bellahouston Academy School Photo's St Saviour's Primary School Photo's Lourdes Primary School Photo's St Gerards School. 178 9 shares Like Most relevant Denise Mcdonald Many happy memories there in the late 80s and early 90s . Community service. Scots: Gouan; Scottish Gaelic: Baile a' Ghobhainn) is a district, parish, and former burgh now part of south-west City of Glasgow, Scotland. Replies. The first trade I learnt was stealing and gambling yet it seemed normal to all of us as children. The layout suited their operations as there were only two ways in and out - making it easy to spot the police. The Govan of my parents had gone, the works and the jobs and the people they spoke about had all gone. I don't like to think what might have happened if they had been discovered.''. Nestled among the quaint streets My father "served his time" in the Thermotank then for many years was a policeman in Plantation Street. 5 Those ads you do see are predominantly from local businesses promoting local services. Gran was Annie Murphy but her dad died when she was 4 and her mother remarried John Johnston and went on to have a huge number of children - and as we research the family, we keep finding more. I was so focussed what was in front of me, I never looked behind me and I disappeared over the edge. Get directions. The barbers shop was called "Knop & Joyce" and was at 26 Langlands Road, it opened in 1929 and Harry Knop lived in the next close at 34 Langlands Road. Then the place just went to pot. My Mum was Godmother to your brother and I was at your wedding. Hi Catherine, I also lived at 100 Harmony Row and also live in Canada. Its cells were just as grim but did not seem to deter the many local villains who frequented them on a regular basis. Does anyone remember; Sophie, Robert; and Mary,who lived in Carmichael Street, Govan 1936? My brother and I would wait for the coal lorry to come round the corner and hang onto the back of it as it drove up the street. Galbraith shop opposite Elderpark, they sold us kids a bag of broken biscuits. You never forget these things, but what great days and what character building it was. Born 1945, 28 Craigton Road two up in the hole in the wall, I went to Greenfield Primary remember headmaster name a Mr Hutchinson, a Miss Burnside, miss Blackstock. Photos: Splash News. Within it and its roughly circular churchyard is one of the finest collections of Early Christian stones in the United Kingdom, known as the Govan Stones, dating from the c.9th to 11th centuries. Of 99m New Cafe India Govan . One of his best customers was a former police officer who had been thrown out the force due to his heroin addiction. The main point of the Presentation was that, in an area which had lost 80% of its population (between 1951 and 2001), the re-zoning of demolished housing areas for warehousing and offices meant that there was less chance of people coming back into the area to live, as houses were needed in these areas and not anonymous commercial barns and offices. I remember Betty McPhee, Margaret Liversidge, the Gourlay brothers and Brian Wilson.We lived in the top floor for a few years and the moved to bigger flat on first floor with a bathroom. Any profits went into the family home and we knew that we would get in return our Saturday matinee money and a sweety. History [ edit] That is why this Reflection will critically examine the Moorepark experience (within the context of community planning) from before Darners time to the 1970s and the present, where it will question if there have been any real changes in attitudes between then and today or worse, are the same mistakes being repeated, and is proven good work being ignored? we were easy pleased in those days. If you are dissatisfied with the response provided you can Non-governmental organisations working in the field such as the Church, charitable organisations, etc., have for a long time advocated Community Planning or management of the urban environment as the best solution to this problem of how to give a better quality of life to many of the citizens of our country. I went to Govan High school and Fairfield Primary school, I worked at MacDonalds biscuit factory then went to Toronto with my husband Dan Slavin, I miss my wee town, it will not be same anymore. Does anyone remember Cuthbertson's dairies milk depot Vicarfield street Govan. [10][11], The area was associated with Junior football team St Anthony's who had two grounds in the area. [7] It is now kept inside the church, as part of the Govan Stones museum collection. Reid was a prominent union leader whose successful 'work in' at the Upper Clyde Shipbuilders in 1971 stopped government attempts to close the yards. Thus, when Renfrewshire was created out of a sheriffdom of Lanarkshire in the early fifteenth century, the lands associated with the hospital (Polmadie) were not technically in the newly created shire, as they were not part of the sheriffdom. Government organisation. For those who did move in, it was not a matter of them wanting to live in the area, it was more a case of people with little or no choice about where they could stay. He said: "I found myself in charge of one of the hardest areas within Strathclyde, if not Scotland. Servicii comunitare. I spent a lot of time at my granny's while growing up I remember we used to get payed for watching the cars when there was a game on at Ibrox. However, as soon as Bishop Loch got permission to build, they immediately decided to cancel the hotel, and double the amount of private houses to a 1,000. Ai uitat contul? British Shipbuilders road to privatisation was not as swift, and the group was sold piece by piece throughout the course of the 1980s. Seven generations of our family have been born in Govan. A big gang of kids would all go to the pictures on Saturday afternoon and one kid would pay to get in and then would go round to the fire escape door and open it and let the rest of the kids in for free. Regular bus services, mainly operated by McGill's Bus Services and First Glasgow, offer frequent routes to Glasgow City Centre, as well as to numerous locations in Renfrewshire. Jack, Margaret, Frank, Gerry, May, Charlie and Kathleen, Annie Maguire's 7 children. Govan borders the district of Ibrox, home to the Scottish football club Rangers F.C. Introduction Resources were stretched as detectives dealt with high levels of violence including murder - much of it drug related. Wine Quality 4/4. Mother has an excellent memory and I am attempting to write down stories about; the old shops; events streets and everything. We used to prick our fingers to drop blood into the fish tank where the (goldfish-sized) piranhas were and watch them converge on the blood. Hi, I'm not from Govan though my grandparents, Janet (Nettie) and David Finlayson owned a newsagents in Neptune Street in the 1940s/1950s. We used to listen to all the records being played from Munleys on a Saturday morning. A friend called Carol Slater. My husband and I ended up going into the USA. In 1885, the yard moved further west to its present site and was reorganised as the Fairfield Shipbuilding and Engineering Company Ltd. For about a decade that shop stood empty and it broke my heart. Used to have a friend called Theresa Moody who died quite young. It was a them and us attitude that persisted right up until the Wine Alley was demolished in the late 1990s. [9], The earliest references to Govan are found in connection with the Christian church. Interest. Alley & Vine will be ready for outdoor and indoor dining once allowed, but until then, customers can order online or by phone for takeout and curbside pickup. This facilitated the development of shipbuilding as a major industry. We then moved to a cottage at 112 Golspie Street down the lane, I always remember walking home down the lane, at the bottom of the lane we had a very large wooden gate, which we had to open to get in. These were not cleared until well into the 1970s. Wine Alley, the newest wine tasting experience to open at Woodin Creek Village in Woodinville, WA, debuted with a ribbon cutting ceremony and grand opening event on February 18, 2022. Does anyone remember my dad Iain Campbell and mother Margaret Marshall born 1921 and 1922? What a memory. During fortnight surveillance in February 1989, they discovered that the same gang member had hired his biggest car yet. When the railway was to be built in the late nineteenth century, however, the confusion over proper descriptions in the land titles made necessary legal transactions difficult and had to be reconciled. I recall going to the Co-op hypermarket on a Saturday morning for messages. Second, it encourage prospects for social inclusion by impioving living conditions and life changes while a third (indirect) factor is that, by working with authority, it can augment the personal development and enhanced confidence that participation can bring.9 Based on this, Govan's Cumbric language name has been reconstructed as *(G)uovan. My grandmother's name was Mary Murray she had eight children one being my mother Helen who was born in 1927. 14 Riverside Changes, 2005, p. 1 First, this fosters connectedness seen in social capital and enhanced trust in government and in fellow citizens. We all went to Harmony Row school because that was where our mother went and she wanted us to have the same teachers she had, and there were a few left from when she attended there. 3.75/4 3.75 / 4 (0 reviews) Staff Knowledge & Friendliness 4/4. In Great Britain, community planning has evolved and not only has it kept its identity, but it has also retained its application as a primary vehicle through which social change is enacted at a local level, by members of the community acting together to improve the lifestyle of the group as a whole. Daddy Boyd who used to wear his academic gowns on official occasions which I to this day found hard to understand as none of the other teachers ever wore them. Pieces 'n Jam and a Bottle of Water climb on top of a Air Raid Shelter and have a picnic, Aye happy days and not a Tablet or Mobile phone in site. Beforesentencing, judge Lord Caplan told Burnside: ''You have been a significant dealer in a dreadful trade and the courts have seen the havoc it causes among young persons. I would like to hear from anybody who knew any of us up until 1981 when my mum and dad left Ibrox to move to Craigton. It closed permanently to regular passenger services on 9 May 1921. My father was a chemist who worked for the SCWS. Renton, WA 98058. He wanted to discover how and why such places came into being and to see if remedies could be found. I lived at 2 Luath Street in Govan with my Mum and Dad - Cathie and Ronnie Johnston. I lived in Kintra Street from 1946 until 1960 and went to Broomloan Road school then Govan High. I remember your family at 100 Harmony Row, my cousin Maisie McAlinden was friendly with the family also my Granny, or as she was better known, MAW Austin, hence I was bettter known a Joe Austin. Amenities, Comfort & Cleanliness 4/4. When the sirens went for everyone to go to their shelters, our grandfather had to come and help her take us to St. Anthony's school (our shelter). 100m D.C Hair&Beauty . Skater Girl. Community organisation. Creeaz un cont nou. The Old Govan Fair. Now her daughter (my mother) is 92 years old and I am fascinated by the stories which her mother passed down to her and now to me. My maternal grandmother Mary Agnes McDermott and her family came to Govan from Ireland in the early 1900's. Sometimes on a Sunday we would go over to Kelvingrove and (if memory serves me) run around the suits of armour until we were thrown out of the Art Galleries. In the cace of Easterhouse it was the various interested parties of the Eastethoude Community Group who decided to get the authorities to tske notice of their plight by directly intervening their own affairs. [14] in 1901 the Burgh boundaries increased further west to include Linthouse and West Drumoyne. Wine Alley Govan Kids Southern General Hospital On the Clyde Govan Kvaerner/Fairfield Shipyards Govan Shipyards ( Front gate pics ) The Plaza/Vogue Govan Dry Docks Trams in Govan/ Goods Carriers Inside the Lyceum Bingo/Picture Hall Lyceum Projection Room Lyceum Foyer & Balcony Foyer Lyceum Cinema Balcony Inside The Lyceum Govan Baths Harhill Went to Drumoyne primary then Govan High. Govan and Fisher, former NBA player and current head coach for the Los Angeles Sparks, got married on Saturday at Cielo Farms in Malibu, California. I always thought it was a listed building. Govan young team. The area was originally a country estate which contained a mansion house, Moore Park, which was built in the early 19th century for the Hagart family, to plans prepared by the architect David Hamilton. I believe that the buiding was demolished due to a structural problem that would not be able to be easily remedied. sau. The evidence they gathered was crucial and the jury was able to see the gang operating on the video footage shown to them. These adverts enable local businesses to get in front of their target audience the local community. My sister and I were born the year before the second world war at Montrose nursing home in Govan. From Rushden we came back to Larbert, then to Lauder. Loving your stories, my nana was born at 15 Elder Street, Govan in 1893. Glasgow Braendam Link, Pearce Institute, 840 Govan Road, Govan, Glasgow, G51 3UU Former. Memory says it was painted red but I might be wrong. The authors would like to thank Glasgow Braendam Link, The Faith in Community (Scotland) Transformation Team, Oxfams UK Poverty Programme, and the Poverty Alliance for suggesting the idea of this project for the worlds Poverty Day on October 17th 2005. Site Number NS56NE 4994. I was searching for Harry Lauder pictures and came across this interesting site. Used to jump the dykes with my brother Kenneth. We sold puppies, kittens, mice, fish and I promise you, they were cleaned and cared for with the tenderest of love and care, and caution was exerted when people tried to buy them. The writer on housing problems, T. A. Markus, wondered why many important questions were never asked in the planning process. The Moorepark area is served by Ibrox subway station on the Glasgow Subway system,[15] which is located on the corner of Copland Road and Woodville Street. the 550 tenancies available, only 33 (16%) were identifiably from Govan itself. [5][6] Along with being physically hemmed in by factories and a railway branch line, and issues which were shared by other 'rehousing' developments of the time - namely low-quality building materials, few amenities and socio-economic difficulties associated with the demise of local industries (particularly shipbuilding in the case of Govan) - this label gave Moorepark a stigma as one of the city's most notorious 'schemes'.[7][8]. 6 Media/news company. I was born in Govan in 1930 and went to Saint Constantine's Elementary School and then on to Saint Gerard's in 1941, I was at St Gerard's until 1946. Then the area - close to Rangers home at Ibrox - had a reputation for deprivation and poverty having been built in the 1930s to relieve overcrowding in the Gorbals. But. The newlyweds got engaged in April 2018 after dating for three years and were forced to delay their wedding last April due to the coronavirus pandemic. Our young sister was married in St. Anthony's years later. Hi there, just wondering if anyone has any info or stories on the Slaters, Mckechnies or Hutchisons, hope to hear back. Even having a "piece" thrown from the window was an adventure would it be "butter"and sugar or Jam what a treat! [11], By the 16th century, extensive coal mine workings had been developed around Craigton and Drumoyne. Datum OSGB36 - NGR. 3 Elder park is a mess and all the railings have been taken out. This was the catalyst that led local Govanites into despising the peoph of Moorepark, and considering them as different and alien. Somewhere, communication had broken down so completely, that while the latter felt powerless to do anything about the situation, the remedies of the former only made the situation worse. In reply to these petitions, the Scottish Parliament wrote to Glasgow City Council and to Scottish Enterprise Glasgow, asking for their responses to the submission and within 4 months, Glasgow Council had taken steps to set up the Central Govan Action Plan.16 Community planning began in the rapidly industrialising 19th century cities of Great Britain and America where reformers and well-wishers wanted to ameliorate the appalling living conditions of the working classes. The two men, working for up to 18 hours at a time, had to be smuggled out before dawn each day. Darners second criticism was that the Tenants Association in the scheme had no local leadership or community say over who came into the scheme. The church, situated at the west end of the village of Govan, and about 100 yards from the Clyde, was built in 1826, and is a plain structure containing 1096 sittings: the . My sister and I were married in 1961 at Govan Parish where we were members. 14). I am looking for the name of a barbers shop that was on Langlands Road at Helen street end. I was born in Broomloan Road by the pot heid (TSB) bank which is still there. If either cop was caught then they were on a hiding to nothing. The county added to the description of these lands, the phrase: "but now by annexation in the County of Renfrew. I married in Glasgow, Scotland in 1974 and emigrated to Canada that same year, I have lived in Canada ever since. Impressed by what they had done, the European Community allowed an application for major funds, which matched by the City Council (and oth adherents), to such an extent that another 36 blocks in the estate were rehabililitated in the same fashion as the prototype.8, At this point, some may ask, if the residents of such a community could do so mutch themselves, why is authority necessary for community planning? A similar uncertainty existed regarding the nearby lands of Pollokshields and Westends. or. policy initiatives given due regard. We lived directly opposite the Steamie and I vividly recall playing ball against the red brick wall for hours. The Govan ferry was something special for us to go on, either by ourselves or with our mum. I was born in Southern General 1971, lived in 1 Elder Street with my mum Ina Quinn and dad Peter Quinn, brothers and sister. The plan was to video and record any deals as they happened - a tricky and dangerous proposition. However, the local paper still remained hostile, hypocritical, and unhelpful about the whole idea. We loved the years living there and in 1949, our little sister was born at 22 Shaw St., That same year we moved to Penilee, but when my sister and I were seventeen, our parents moved back to Govan because the house in Penilee was very damp, so our parents got an exchange to a house on Govan Rd., the cooperative building next to Fairfield's shipyard. An isolated island of cheap building land, Glasgow Corporation bought the Moorepark land and in 1934 built the Moorepark Housing Estate, a typical Glasgow rehousing scheme of three-storey grey concrete-block tenements.
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